since almost nobody seems to know what to do when teams are "with too many players"...
this is what usually works for me:

- go spec
- !teams ( if it does not work right away, just wait like 10 seconds and use !teams again)
- once bot forced even teams, you usually can join the team of your choice.

I´ve no other chance to balance teams when nobody listens to my mesages that i !scream in also! Nothing happens its very annoying to see that on teams gets slaughtered by another one. And not why the teamplay of the good team is so "uber-perfect" its cause of 3 or 4 pro-skillerz are in one team and nobody changes to support the other team...

Can we implent a addon into b3 that he switch players, if the teams are unbalenced in skills?
In cs there are some functions i think.

if the point relation is over 2:1 b3 should change a good player from the good team into the bad team and a more worse player from bad team to good.

Hi!

as B3 moderator with level 40 i cannot use the !force Command to switch a player to a specific team. B3 always tells me that i have not enough rights. But i think this command should be useable as moderator also. A short story:

a few days ago i specced a little on the server, when Pharaoh, Ponczo and another 3rd player (i cannot remember) where in one team, in the other team where normals (not such Pros ) So i know what this means, when 3 skillers are in one team, the other team has no chance.
I wrote many times with B3 that one of them should plz change the team, but nothing happens, so the summary was a 250:97 on this map, and started again on the next map, a real massacre a !teams command doesnt helped here, cause the playercount was balanced.

example:
algiers i am on red, rush the left flank as fast as i can, round after round, to prevent the enemy from closing on in on our spawn.
i die a lot, so my score is pretty fucked. but defending red bombplace is vital for red not to lose.
how can you get stats that reflect these things, in order to use them in the balance-plugin? as well you would also need to have an oversight on the medic skills of a player, to determine his teamplay value. scores may say something about this, but mostly when i am of importance teamplay-wise, myscores do ot reflect this in like 70% of all cases.

Lets say at beginning you had score 100:50, but blues were empowered and at end you get 250:175. It's still pwnage, especially if you look that blue with that player got 200:75, which is more than 2:1.

There are players with so good score who don't help team a bit, and there are people with sucky score who help team a lot.

It depends on how you define "help". It's TDM at the end : if you want to be in the winning team, better be with macko than with the most devoted medic

Yeah, I always help both teams: I help my teams because I often leave unfinished targets when I die making them easy frags for others, and I help the opposite team by shooting at my teammates that cross my line of fire.

I never like to play with somebody who totally pwns server But natirips for example, helps on three ways:
1) He heals a lot
2) He catches bullets instead of me
3) When on opposite team i pwn him

Let's say small passages are windows. I passed inside house (light blue dot), and lets say i killed one sniper, ignoring two peoples. Now, 3 snipers and two more guys turn to me, so doors are unwatched. I'll surely die, but two our players will catch then unprepared, two guys they will kill from back, snipers will be catched reloading/healing. I had score 1:1, but my team leads 7:1.