AimMe wrote:
Why? If somebody had skill 1490, he plays at noob server. Now, he had skill 1490 while playing vs noobs AND pros, and he'll pwn noobs so much, and get skill over 1550 very quickly.
And somebody who had skill 1510 while playing against pros AND noobs, will have no chance against only pros, and his skill will quickly go below 1450.
And somebody who had skill 1510 while playing against pros AND noobs, will have no chance against only pros, and his skill will quickly go below 1450.
I would say that the guy with 1490 skill points will get skill over 1550 as quickly as he kills more skilled players than him, more than noobs... IMO, the 1510 skill points guy who play on a pro server won't have his skill decreasing below 1450 that fast.
Xlrstats uses logistic function to calculate skill points when someone is killed, like ELO ranking system in chess for example. That means if you are skilled, you won't get lots of skill points by killing a noob, and he won't lose much, but if he kills you he will win lots and you would lose lots of points too. For example, if the 1510 guy kills someone who have 1750 with normal weapon, he will win roughly 3.4 points. If the 1750 kills the 1510, he will lose only 1.1 points : it means that if the 1510 is able to keep a 1:3 ratio, his skill points will remain stable. 1:3 isn't so huge, assuming the guy was leader of the beginner server...
AimMe wrote:
And one more thing: We would have all admins and over 10 mods at pro server, and maybe 3 mods on noob server.
Yes you have a point here.
AimMe wrote:
i and dmmh would go to noob server and knife them all and get all records,
Nasty knife record stealers
HumppaLakki wrote:
SvaRoX wrote:
Knife multiplier isn't high enough to give you skill points because you die too much
Yes 1500 is nice, or maybe 1600. According to xlrstats calculations, a 1600 skill points is supposed to have 9/10 probability to kill a noob (1000 skill points)...
Thats not right at all. I played yesterday with xtj7 on 3 or 4 maps knife only. and i get with nearly 1.00 Ratio nearly 100 Skillpoints plus. So the multiplier is high enough to give you some skillpoints even if you kill noobs.
Knife multiplier isn't high enough to give you skill points because you die too much
Yes 1500 is nice, or maybe 1600. According to xlrstats calculations, a 1600 skill points is supposed to have 9/10 probability to kill a noob (1000 skill points)...
Thats not right at all. I played yesterday with xtj7 on 3 or 4 maps knife only. and i get with nearly 1.00 Ratio nearly 100 Skillpoints plus. So the multiplier is high enough to give you some skillpoints even if you kill noobs.
Maybe the factor 2 is high enough, but still, 100 skill points is an absolute value, whereas winning skill points totally depends on your skill you had when you sliced and the skills of your victims. Ok, if you play with a new account, you could gain 100 skills points even with horrible ratio. But I'm not sure you could maintain 1800 with knife only on wurst, nor you could win 100 skills points if you had 1750 with knife only, because you would be killed by low skilled player and it would cost you too much points. Or else you would need a better ratio than 1 which is hard or... having the knife factor increased =)
<adv>!kntest <someone> to know how many skill points you would win by slicing someone
</adv>HumppaLakki wrote:
im also not a big fan of the idea to split the server in Pro and Noob server.
I often have really bad stats because i do some random shit on the server cause for my own fun ingame. Running with knife or pistol only for example. So stats dont say anything about the skill some players have. Think of slicey. He isent that often even in the Top 20 cause he just wants to have some fun and dont wants to be the "Skillmaster". And i really believe i could be N1 if he wants to.
I often have really bad stats because i do some random shit on the server cause for my own fun ingame. Running with knife or pistol only for example. So stats dont say anything about the skill some players have. Think of slicey. He isent that often even in the Top 20 cause he just wants to have some fun and dont wants to be the "Skillmaster". And i really believe i could be N1 if he wants to.
Not "Pro" vs "Noob" but "advanced players" between "beginners"
Having some "minimal skills" server wouldn't mean you have to maintain your skill : once you have 1500 you can play on the advanced server and have fun on it. It only means that you have spent some times on the other server, so you know better what to do/not to do ingame : it's not about removing fun, it can even add fun... being teamkilled and blocked 10 times/minutes is really fun killer too. Ok on a 50 slots server it happens more often