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Author: | JRandomNoob [ 08.16.13 ] |
Post subject: | Frozen Sand git repo breached, stand by for further news |
So if you visit urtinfo and see this: Attachment: …it’s caused by this: #urbanterror on QuakeNet wrote: Aug 16 17:17:54 * RaideR has changed the topic to: // Urban Terror // http://www.urbanterror.info // Do not PM the Operators // All Services Suspended until further notice
Aug 16 17:19:05 <Driller_> Cough any reason FS could share, this sounds like the websiet is under attack or so?: Shutdown Pending: Team FS have decided to suspend all operations until further notice. Aug 16 17:20:57 <B1naryTh1ef> Driller_: No information until we feel comfortable sharing Aug 16 17:22:23 <Driller_> All right B1naryTh1ef that is okay. That etxt feels dramatic so i thought i ask here, but i will hear later the erason. Hope its not that some major dev's are dropping out... Anyway, we hear it later! Aug 16 17:24:42 <curatrix> Is the UT server down? Aug 16 17:24:48 <B1naryTh1ef> topic Aug 16 17:24:50 <B1naryTh1ef> Read it Aug 16 17:25:16 <Vogg> a little bit of information would be nice Aug 16 17:25:28 <curatrix> What happened? Aug 16 17:25:44 <nikkerz> suspended until further notice? Aug 16 17:25:49 <nikkerz> this sounds juicy Aug 16 17:25:50 <B1naryTh1ef> We're looking into stuff Aug 16 17:26:00 <B1naryTh1ef> Thats as much as you can know at this time Aug 16 17:26:02 <Vogg> riot is buying urban terror? Aug 16 17:26:10 <B1naryTh1ef> lol Aug 16 17:26:14 <Vogg> blizzard? Aug 16 17:26:22 <dcdd> somebody wants to sue? Aug 16 17:26:23 <Vogg> EA? Aug 16 17:26:35 <nikkerz> how about brainie Aug 16 17:27:15 <Nova``> O_o Aug 16 17:27:43 <B1naryTh1ef> Just keep calm and carry on, as soon as we can tell you whats going on we will Aug 16 17:27:44 <nikkerz> yeah thats my general reaction to that too Aug 16 17:30:29 <thelionroars> Don't Panic Aug 16 17:30:43 <thelionroars> and always bring a towel Aug 16 17:30:48 <Smve-> hey Aug 16 17:30:52 <Smve-> whats up with the website Aug 16 17:30:59 <thelionroars> see topic ^ Aug 16 17:31:11 <thelionroars> info will be given at a later stage Aug 16 17:31:54 <thelionroars> you can still do that :P Aug 16 17:32:25 <nikkerz> they just dont show up in server lists right? Aug 16 17:32:28 <thelionroars> yes Aug 16 17:32:36 <curatrix> They wont connect Aug 16 17:32:37 <thelionroars> no master means no server address list Aug 16 17:32:38 <nikkerz> and im assuming auth doesnt work either Aug 16 17:32:40 <[b00bs]The-spik> curatrix: http://www.b00bs-clan.com/servers Aug 16 17:33:07 <thelionroars> yeah that's what I figured nikkerz Aug 16 17:33:13 <[b00bs]The-spik> scroll down to middle. there's ppl on euro servers Aug 16 17:33:19 <Nova``> this is unfortunate :( Aug 16 17:33:37 <Nova``> not everyone has IRC, so if Master Server stays dead, not everyone will be able to get back on :< Aug 16 17:34:20 [b]<RaideR> Hi guys :) Aug 16 17:34:24 <nikkerz> gametracker.com? Aug 16 17:34:26 <[b00bs]The-spik> Nova``: no shit? :) Aug 16 17:34:30 * RaideR sets mode +m #urbanterror Aug 16 17:34:33 <RaideR> Okay Aug 16 17:34:36 <RaideR> 1 second Aug 16 17:34:55 <RaideR> Last night we got a report that we had a breach of our GIT repository Aug 16 17:35:43 <RaideR> it seems that this is actually true based on them being able to list a FULL direcotry structure of the said repro as well as content in 015 that is not public knowledge. We have basically had our code stolen Aug 16 17:36:02 <RaideR> at this time, we don't know what we can or can't trust, what systems would be effected. Aug 16 17:36:12 <RaideR> Auth is pretty much useless Aug 16 17:36:24 <RaideR> or at least can't be properly trusted any more Aug 16 17:36:46 <RaideR> Thus ... until such times as we evaluate our own options Aug 16 17:36:56 <RaideR> i have made the decision to suspend ALL our operations Aug 16 17:37:04 <RaideR> until we have a consensus on how to proceed Aug 16 17:37:08 * RaideR sets mode -m #urbanterror Aug 16 17:37:11 <RaideR> Thanks for you time Aug 16 17:37:19 <thelionroars> wasn't git being ddosed a few hours ago? Aug 16 17:37:37 <thelionroars> people on #radiant were saying it was down Aug 16 17:37:40 <v3nd3tta``> One Question: Why don't you use pubkeys for your GIT? Aug 16 17:37:57 <RaideR> actually we do Aug 16 17:38:03 <nikkerz> any chance someone used some basic social engineering on your weakest link Aug 16 17:38:20 <RaideR> i'm not going into the "hows / whys / whats" Aug 16 17:38:25 <RaideR> it's fairly pointless Aug 16 17:38:27 <RaideR> just that it happened Aug 16 17:38:47 <nikkerz> ok ;x Aug 16 17:39:17 <RaideR> Either way ... the server with the Gitlab has been disconnected from the internet Aug 16 17:39:33 <Nova``> 14:13 UTCThe site is currently available, but we are still fighting against an ongoing DDoS so we are going to remain in status red for now. We'll provide additional updates as we have new information. Aug 16 17:39:34 <RaideR> and im currently getting it ready so that it can be sent away Aug 16 17:39:35 <[b00bs]The-spik> RaideR: thanks for info Aug 16 17:39:40 <Nova``> https://status.github.com/ Aug 16 17:39:50 <Nova``> might not have been accessed by a UT player tbh RaideR Aug 16 17:40:02 <RaideR> our GIt Aug 16 17:40:06 <RaideR> is nothing to do with github Aug 16 17:40:11 <RaideR> thats just "coincidental" Aug 16 17:40:22 <Nova``> hmm Aug 16 17:41:25 <v3nd3tta``> Can you change the Topic to something more alarming like "ALL SERVICES SUSPENDED!! - until further notice !!" Aug 16 17:41:47 <v3nd3tta``> that would hold back half of the questions, because it's more announcing Aug 16 17:41:53 <Driller_> They stole the closed code or so, meaning the hackers can do now what they want? That would be very sad... Aug 16 17:42:01 <thelionroars> ah right, I see Aug 16 17:42:08 <Mars_> v3nd3tta``, Aug 16 17:42:09 <Mars_> no it wouldnt Aug 16 17:42:11 <Mars_> nobody reads topic Aug 16 17:42:20 <Mars_> and they wont start even if its in caps Aug 16 17:42:24 <Mars_> join msg would help Aug 16 17:42:32 <v3nd3tta``> ^^ he says it Aug 16 17:43:00 <v3nd3tta``> and maybe warbot announce Aug 16 17:44:35 <RaideR> I would like to say that the source code was physically STOLEN Aug 16 17:44:44 <RaideR> which means people should stay away from it Aug 16 17:45:05 <RaideR> if that is the case Aug 16 17:46:28 <v3nd3tta``> RaideR: may i PM you or can I ask something major in public? Aug 16 17:46:39 <RaideR> you can ask it public Aug 16 17:46:44 <RaideR> im not doing "Cover up mode" on this Aug 16 17:46:47 <v3nd3tta``> Anything more than 4.2 affected? Aug 16 17:47:10 <v3nd3tta``> i mean like, your past and "current" work on HD? Aug 16 17:47:17 <RaideR> ALL our code Aug 16 17:47:26 <thelionroars> that sucks Aug 16 17:47:41 <v3nd3tta``> Holy... Aug 16 17:47:47 <RaideR> i have to assume that means fstech1 (old HD idtech3 stuff you all alpha played) Aug 16 17:47:50 <RaideR> our new stuffs Aug 16 17:47:53 <RaideR> 4.2 Aug 16 17:48:10 <RaideR> it will all come out in the end so it's pointless to shy away from giving out the information Aug 16 17:48:19 <v3nd3tta``> even FS-CMS? Aug 16 17:48:23 <thelionroars> so they must have contacted you and told you they did it Aug 16 17:48:41 <RaideR> out of respect Aug 16 17:48:45 <RaideR> i will not discuss the source Aug 16 17:49:03 <thelionroars> sure Aug 16 17:49:27 <RaideR> At the moment, i am working out "exactly" what could have been taken Aug 16 17:49:44 <RaideR> lucky for me Aug 16 17:49:53 <RaideR> the Git system is isolated on its own box Aug 16 17:50:02 <RaideR> completely independant of any other system or service Aug 16 17:50:04 <v3nd3tta``> with own access logs? Aug 16 17:50:07 <thelionroars> mhm |
Author: | JRandomNoob [ 08.16.13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Frozen Sand git repo breached, stand by for further news |
#urbanterror on QuakeNet wrote: Aug 16 17:51:33 <v3nd3tta``> I really hope you can manage to sort this out and continue to make great things happen.
Aug 16 17:51:43 <RaideR> I don't mind saying this Aug 16 17:51:56 <RaideR> I feel personally assualted Aug 16 17:52:02 <RaideR> they STOLE property Aug 16 17:52:04 <RaideR> from my flat Aug 16 17:52:23 <RaideR> be it via the internet Aug 16 17:52:31 <RaideR> it still the same to me as someone breaking into my flat Aug 16 17:52:34 <RaideR> and taking my stuff Aug 16 17:52:34 <Driller_> i can feel with you RaideR that realy feels bad Aug 16 17:52:43 <Driller_> true ^^ Aug 16 17:53:09 <v3nd3tta``> Completely right, UrT is the Property of FS, interlectual property is also a property. Aug 16 17:53:28 <nikkerz> well the real question is Aug 16 17:53:34 <nikkerz> are you going to pick up the pieces and move on Aug 16 17:53:42 <RaideR> honestly ? Aug 16 17:53:45 <nikkerz> or close the doors if xy amount was stolen Aug 16 17:53:45 <RaideR> right this moment Aug 16 17:53:56 <RaideR> i don't know why i bother Aug 16 17:54:16 <RaideR> seems pointless ... Aug 16 17:54:20 <RaideR> if people don't like what we do Aug 16 17:54:22 <RaideR> they steal it Aug 16 17:54:24 <Driller_> :( Aug 16 17:54:25 <majkifajki> nikkerz: it's hard to move on when your tech is on the street Aug 16 17:54:33 <nikkerz> huh? Aug 16 17:54:35 <ST66> i like what u do :P Aug 16 17:54:47 <nikkerz> are you implying stolen code is making him homeless? Aug 16 17:54:53 <majkifajki> no Aug 16 17:54:59 <majkifajki> "on the street" = public Aug 16 17:55:11 <thelionroars> no nikkerz, just turning tricks Aug 16 17:55:13 <[b00bs]The-spik> lol Aug 16 17:55:17 <nikkerz> oh, never really heard it phrased as such Aug 16 17:55:20 <thelionroars> he needs somewhere to take the Johns Aug 16 17:55:23 <nikkerz> as you can understand my confusion Aug 16 17:55:25 <thelionroars> </jk> Aug 16 17:55:30 <[b00bs]The-spik> majkifajki: you do know that the most successful tech companies have their code public Aug 16 17:55:53 <RaideR> Okay ... i don't want a "Open source" debate to start :P Aug 16 17:55:59 <nikkerz> lol Aug 16 17:56:01 <Driller_> haha Aug 16 17:56:03 <nikkerz> I SAW WHERE THIS WAS GOING TOO Aug 16 17:56:04 <v3nd3tta``> hehe Aug 16 17:56:04 <[b00bs]The-spik> i'm just saying Aug 16 17:56:06 <nikkerz> but i mean Aug 16 17:56:10 <nikkerz> shit if it's already there Aug 16 17:56:12 <RaideR> np [b00bs]The-spik :P Aug 16 17:56:16 <nikkerz> is there no way you can work with it Aug 16 17:56:18 <s4int> i called CSI, they're on the case Aug 16 17:56:33 <zwiebi> it was probably that snowden guy! Aug 16 17:56:37 <[b00bs]The-spik> but for real. idk why you would ragequit with UrT because someone hacked some server Aug 16 17:56:39 <s4int> haha Aug 16 17:56:51 <RaideR> because i feel personally violated ? Aug 16 17:56:57 <RaideR> i don't much care Aug 16 17:56:58 <nikkerz> i wish our government would quit because they got hacked Aug 16 17:57:00 <v3nd3tta``> well 4.1 seemed open as of the server mods Aug 16 17:57:01 <RaideR> for people who force themself Aug 16 17:57:03 <nikkerz> i would throw a party Aug 16 17:57:05 <RaideR> onto my personal server Aug 16 17:57:15 <RaideR> to steal somthing that i put 5 years into protecting Aug 16 17:57:34 <nikkerz> meh but it's like Aug 16 17:57:47 <nikkerz> if you had your 5 year old car stolen, would you just quit driving Aug 16 17:57:58 <RaideR> i MUST drive :P Aug 16 17:58:00 <RaideR> i don't have to do this Aug 16 17:58:02 <[b00bs]The-spik> it's not like attacks on FS in any shape were unthinkable. you expected people to trash talk what you work on Aug 16 17:58:17 <Driller_> No but if your examproof is stolen, will you go basck to school for 12 years? Aug 16 17:58:20 <H0i> it's just a huge disregard for our work Aug 16 17:58:22 <[b00bs]The-spik> caving under pressure is not virtue Aug 16 17:58:29 <nikkerz> its not going back to school Aug 16 17:58:31 <nikkerz> it's STILL there Aug 16 17:58:34 <nikkerz> just someone else knows about it Aug 16 17:58:38 <RaideR> LMAO spik carefull Aug 16 17:58:40 <Nova``> hmm Aug 16 17:58:44 <RaideR> i'm not in the mood for "Hard Questions" Aug 16 17:58:53 <[b00bs]The-spik> i'm not asking any hard questions Aug 16 17:58:54 <v3nd3tta``> understandable Aug 16 17:59:45 <Driller_> but they do have to remake the closed part related to anticheat, not? Aug 16 18:00:12 <nikkerz> anticheat? Aug 16 18:00:16 <nikkerz> for hd? Aug 16 18:00:26 <[b00bs]The-spik> i just wrote my opinion about your implied rq. imo you guys should just shake it off, regroup and continue working on the game Aug 16 18:01:05 <H0i> I'm sure that will happen in the end Aug 16 18:01:20 <Driller_> the authsystem? Aug 16 18:02:47 <Driller_> RaideR: I posted the info here, if you dont want it i delete the post: http://www.urtjumpers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2056 Aug 16 18:02:58 <majkifajki> [16/08/2013 16:55] <[b00bs]The-spik> majkifajki: you do know that the most successful tech companies have their code public Aug 16 18:03:02 <RaideR> i have no problem with it Aug 16 18:03:07 <majkifajki> show me repo of Infinity Ward's engine do COD then :) Aug 16 18:03:15 <RaideR> everything i said was intended to be public Aug 16 18:03:20 <majkifajki> or Blizzard's SC2 Aug 16 18:03:26 <RaideR> i want the community behind FS Aug 16 18:03:33 <Driller_> thought so, just ackowledging. Aug 16 18:03:33 <RaideR> on how we have been treated Aug 16 18:03:47 <nikkerz> i dont think it's really fair to compare paid-to-play games to free Aug 16 18:04:03 <xy> what the hell happened Aug 16 18:04:11 <nikkerz> fs hacked Aug 16 18:07:11 <s4int> i wonder who has done this Aug 16 18:07:18 <s4int> someone quite related to the community Aug 16 18:07:31 <s4int> or anyone else Aug 16 18:08:40 <majkifajki> well, FS is not Blizz - we are very small and niche Aug 16 18:09:40 <nikkerz> well with how raider stated it and wont list a name out of "respect" i'd assume it's something within the urt community Aug 16 18:09:55 <nikkerz> something/someone Aug 16 18:10:02 <Driller_> Delirium again? j/k Aug 16 18:10:19 <nikkerz> lol did delirium do something like that? Aug 16 18:10:28 <ST66> 42 maps Aug 16 18:10:31 <H0i> nah del didn't Aug 16 18:10:34 <RaideR> who is not important :P no discussing that please Aug 16 18:10:45 <Driller_> yes sry.. Aug 16 18:11:12 <H0i> if you know for sure who did it we wouldn't mind hearing of course.. Aug 16 18:11:15 <nikkerz> ST66: o, must have been before me. i don't know much of all the old hoorah Aug 16 18:11:18 <H0i> but not in public Aug 16 18:12:43 <Vogg> I bet it is Fruk Aug 16 18:12:49 <Vogg> you can never trust these polaks :p Aug 16 18:13:16 <Nova``> lol Vogg Aug 16 18:14:04 <akai_> Hi Aug 16 18:14:10 <akai_> i cant see serv in server list Aug 16 18:14:13 <akai_> anyone can help me? Aug 16 18:14:21 <ST66> going to be more people then in 4.2 release :P Aug 16 18:14:25 <xy> you can connect by ip akai_ Aug 16 18:14:29 <xy> no master though Aug 16 18:14:32 <akai_> hm Aug 16 18:14:33 <akai_> k Aug 16 18:14:41 <akai_> so i can still play pickup Aug 16 18:14:45 <xy> ya Aug 16 18:14:47 <akai_> kk ty Aug 16 18:14:50 <Driller_> akai_: http://www.urtjumpers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2056 Aug 16 18:15:19 <akai_> shit :( 0.15 compromised Aug 16 18:15:59 <Driller_> i only need ip of dustgamxs/bubble bomb thingy -) Aug 16 18:25:43 <Nova``> Not sure whether these will help people or not, but here's some lists of some UrT servers for people who don't have a private server to play on or whatever. http://master.bigbrotherbot.net/?game=iourt42 || http://www.gametracker.com/search/urbanterror/ Aug 16 18:26:13 <zwiebi> btw, it may be useful to make a topic somewhere (like UZ) about what happened, and link it on the urt.info page so all the ppl who will search for a solution about the master server list can get some info Aug 16 18:26:35 <Driller_> zwiebi: i made one http://www.urtjumpers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2056 Aug 16 18:26:55 <Nova``> Driller_, could you stick up those links i put up? Aug 16 18:27:03 <Nova``> if possible :) Aug 16 18:27:09 <Driller_> o yes i post them in that topic Aug 16 18:27:39 <zwiebi> Driller_ it's nice, but there should be a link to it on the urt.info site Aug 16 18:27:54 <zwiebi> if you google 'urban terror no list from master server' it will send you to urt.info Aug 16 18:28:22 <zwiebi> where the only info is, that everything is suspended |
Author: | JRandomNoob [ 08.17.13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Frozen Sand git repo breached, stand by for further news |
B1naryTh1ef comments on Reddit FS on Twitter |
Author: | natirips [ 08.17.13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Frozen Sand git repo breached, stand by for further news |
Quote: Aug 16 17:44:35 <RaideR> I would like to say that the source code was physically STOLEN Wow, someone stole their hard drives? >_>I don't want to start a flame war, but "to steal" and "to breach privacy" are not the same thing. When something is stolen it's no longer available to the owner and the owner is damaged. When privacy is breached (as in "software piracy") everything is still there and no damage was made. It's like someone looking through your bathroom window while you take shower. Sure it's a crime but not of the same magnitude as theft. |
Author: | havoc [ 08.17.13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Frozen Sand git repo breached, stand by for further news |
very interesting... |
Author: | zietsh [ 08.17.13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Frozen Sand git repo breached, stand by for further news |
natirips wrote: Quote: Aug 16 17:44:35 <RaideR> I would like to say that the source code was physically STOLEN Wow, someone stole their hard drives? >_>I don't want to start a flame war, but "to steal" and "to breach privacy" are not the same thing. When something is stolen it's no longer available to the owner and the owner is damaged. When privacy is breached (as in "software piracy") everything is still there and no damage was made. It's like someone looking through your bathroom window while you take shower. Sure it's a crime but not of the same magnitude as theft. Well if I was "physically STOLEN" then that would mean a full copy does not exist doesn't it? ____________________________________________________________ But then again some thing is also stolen in terms of knowledge when you do not intend to share it. Look at companies: Espionage of technology, a certain technology is "stolen". ____________________________________________________________ In Germany we got as an example: "Urheber Recht" http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/urhg/ § 12 Veröffentlichungsrecht (1) Der Urheber hat das Recht zu bestimmen, ob und wie sein Werk zu veröffentlichen ist. Which basically means you decide if something should be public or not as long as you made it. My interpretation: So the knowledge of the content of something you made is in itself something that "belongs" to you. Thus, as someone else takes that knowledge with force he stole something from you as that takes away the "property" that it only belongs to you, now it belongs to other too, even if it is just knowledge. What I mean is that the attribute of knowledge is that only knew know it can be stolen, because that attribute is taken from you. So its not only privacy that has been breached. |
Author: | JRandomNoob [ 08.17.13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Frozen Sand git repo breached, stand by for further news |
Web back up, auth still disabled; official announcement. |
Author: | JRandomNoob [ 08.17.13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Frozen Sand git repo breached, stand by for further news |
B1naryTh1ef quits Frozen Sand. Do not miss the drama! |
Author: | zietsh [ 08.17.13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Frozen Sand git repo breached, stand by for further news |
JRandomNoob wrote: B1naryTh1ef quits Frozen Sand. Do not miss the drama! Fred is gone! |
Author: | Crusher [ 08.17.13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Frozen Sand git repo breached, stand by for further news |
Cant see the thread... |
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